WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.860 (Dynamic Music) 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.800 (motor vehicle sounds and text on screen: Romance Scam) 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:12.760 (motor vehicle sounds and text on screen: Los Angeles, California) 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:16.520 [KEVIN] My name is Kevin. I'm a special agent 00:00:16.520 --> 00:00:18.199 with Homeland Security investigations 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:20.960 here in the Los Angeles area. I'm 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:23.279 assigned to the cyber crimes and 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:25.359 incident response team. We received a 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.920 call from our attaché's office in 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:30.599 Toronto, Canada. The attaché's office had 00:00:30.599 --> 00:00:32.559 explained to us that they had received 00:00:32.559 --> 00:00:34.320 information from a local bank in 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.399 Toronto. The bank had reported that a 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:40.200 American citizen in the Los Angeles area 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.719 was sending money to a money mule in the 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.960 Toronto area. Based on the information 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.840 that our attaché had provided to us, we 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.879 traveled to the victim's house here in 00:00:52.879 --> 00:00:57.239 the Los Angeles area. The victim had 00:00:57.239 --> 00:01:00.960 recorded the conversations with 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.519 the suspect on- on a couple of 00:01:03.519 --> 00:01:06.880 occasions. This proves very helpful 00:01:06.880 --> 00:01:09.240 when it comes to prosecution point. We 00:01:09.240 --> 00:01:11.759 can always play that- that recording back 00:01:11.759 --> 00:01:15.320 to the jury to- for them to hear how 00:01:15.320 --> 00:01:18.080 this particular scammer impacted this 00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:20.840 particular victim. [BEATRICE ON RECORDED CHAT] I just hope you 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:23.200 understand that that's the only way I 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.360 can send the money. [SUSPECT] Why do you want to 00:01:26.360 --> 00:01:29.119 make it so difficult for me. It's going 00:01:29.119 --> 00:01:31.720 to be fine. It's going to be nice. When I 00:01:31.720 --> 00:01:35.479 told you what I want, you are helping me 00:01:35.479 --> 00:01:39.360 and I said okay this is how I want 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:42.079 it. Then why do you want to make this an 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.520 issue? [BEATRICE] The pot at the end of the rainbow 00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:46.920 was going to be so wonderful the way he 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:48.840 presented this whole story to me what 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.240 our lives would be like together and how 00:01:51.240 --> 00:01:53.479 much we had in common and it was, you 00:01:53.479 --> 00:01:55.680 know, both of us having lost a spouse and 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.039 now we're going to start the rest of our 00:01:58.039 --> 00:02:02.439 lives together. I- I just couldn't see straight. 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.920 [TV SHOW BOY] Look there go the Millers again. 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.440 [BEATRICE] I come from a generation who trusted 00:02:08.440 --> 00:02:11.520 most people they met. We didn't assume 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.760 everyone was bad or guilty until they 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:15.160 proved themselves innocent, 00:02:15.160 --> 00:02:18.080 but in today's dating world, you 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.160 must assume everyone is a scammer until 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:23.239 they prove that they're not. It was a 00:02:23.239 --> 00:02:26.120 perfect storm. My husband had died 2 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.599 years earlier. I was retired 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.840 and then COVID hit and so the 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.040 next 2 years I'm stuck at home. I was 00:02:35.040 --> 00:02:37.120 missing having a companion. I was missing 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.959 having somebody talk to and- and have a 00:02:39.959 --> 00:02:42.800 connection with. I went on a senior's 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.400 dating site. You know there were lots of 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.800 men's faces that came up that were, you 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.760 know, okay and this one guy he just 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:53.640 looked like a nice, decent man, he 00:02:53.640 --> 00:02:56.440 actually reminded me a little of my late 00:02:56.440 --> 00:02:59.159 husband in his eyes and his smile, so I 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.720 was kind of drawn to that. There are many 00:03:01.720 --> 00:03:03.920 worldwide networks of scammers who have 00:03:03.920 --> 00:03:05.840 different scripts they work from, but 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.640 there are common red flags to always look for. 00:03:08.640 --> 00:03:10.760 He's new to online dating. He doesn't 00:03:10.760 --> 00:03:13.080 have a lot of pictures to send you. 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.000 That's because he's using someone else's 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.319 pictures. He wants to know all about your 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.200 friends and family — not because he cares — 00:03:20.200 --> 00:03:21.840 it's so he knows if you're going to talk 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.799 to other people about him who could warn 00:03:23.799 --> 00:03:26.319 you to stay away. He works outside the 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:28.799 country — it could be on an oil rig in the 00:03:28.799 --> 00:03:31.599 Indian Ocean or in the military or he's 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.879 a contractor in the Middle East. It's 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:36.040 always something exotic because then his 00:03:36.040 --> 00:03:38.599 story can get complicated and confuse 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:41.360 you. I wish I knew this before I ever 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:44.560 started going online to meet someone. I 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.159 assumed he was honest and genuine. He 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.360 spent months texting me three to four 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.200 times a day and calling me to establish 00:03:52.200 --> 00:03:54.480 our relationship. You're already sucked 00:03:54.480 --> 00:03:57.599 in to this emotional attachment and 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:02.519 that's all they need to reel you in and 00:04:02.519 --> 00:04:04.799 prime you and groom you to the point 00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:07.799 where they ask for money. That's all this 00:04:07.799 --> 00:04:10.159 is about and they know they're not going 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:14.079 to get it until they feel they've earned 00:04:14.079 --> 00:04:17.079 your trust. So they do whatever they need 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:20.320 to, tell you whatever you need to hear, so 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:22.000 when he started saying things that 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:25.240 didn't sound right or make sense — by the 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.520 time I saw the red flags, I ignored them 00:04:28.520 --> 00:04:31.440 because I didn't want want to be wrong. I 00:04:31.440 --> 00:04:34.280 wanted to believe the dream. I was 00:04:34.280 --> 00:04:36.080 already brainwashed to believe 00:04:36.080 --> 00:04:38.880 everything he told me just — like being in 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:42.800 a cult. Once you're there, number one you 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.360 don't want to be wrong. You don't want to 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.720 admit it cuz you don't want to be wrong. 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.000 You don't want to feel you've been 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.800 scammed. You don't want to feel that 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.840 you've given money that you're never 00:04:52.840 --> 00:04:55.960 going to get back to a stranger so 00:04:55.960 --> 00:04:58.960 you're you- you go with it and you make 00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:02.840 it happen in your head. Whereas all he's 00:05:02.840 --> 00:05:05.520 doing is setting you up to take your 00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:07.400 money that you're never going to see 00:05:07.400 --> 00:05:11.320 again. There's a private Facebook group 00:05:11.320 --> 00:05:14.639 for victims of romance scammers 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:15.800 and I joined that 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:19.520 and -oh- did that help because there 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:22.880 were so many women, mostly women, but 00:05:22.880 --> 00:05:26.240 there were some men, who have all been in 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.759 the same situation. Who lost way more 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:33.240 money than I did and going through the 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:35.639 exact same feelings of how could they be 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.960 so gullible, how could they be so stupid. 00:05:37.960 --> 00:05:40.440 They're smart, intelligent women who 00:05:40.440 --> 00:05:43.560 count every penny that they're spending. 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:45.880 And they got sucked in. For the story 00:05:45.880 --> 00:05:50.000 might be different, but the end goal was 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.720 the same. They suck you out of your money 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.160 and- and just manipulate your emotions. 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.440 [KEVIN] You know I'm often times 00:05:58.440 --> 00:06:00.240 asked 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:04.759 by the victim, you know, what could I have done. 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:07.400 In this particular case, I was- we 00:06:07.400 --> 00:06:09.120 were asked, you know, what- what could I 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.599 have done better. In this particular 00:06:11.599 --> 00:06:14.599 instance, the victim did everything right. 00:06:14.599 --> 00:06:16.720 Preserved evidence, preserved the 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:20.479 communications, which leads me to 00:06:20.479 --> 00:06:23.599 recommending if you're- to this. 00:06:23.599 --> 00:06:25.800 (Text on screen: If you are a victim of romance scam please call: 1-877-4-HSI-TIP) If you believe that you're a victim of a 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.080 (Text on screen: If you are a victim of romance scam please call: 1-877-4-HSI-TIP) romance scam or if you believe you're a 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:31.000 (Text on screen: If you are a victim of romance scam please call: 1-877-4-HSI-TIP) victim of some type of fraud 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:34.599 (Text on screen: If you are a victim of romance scam please call: 1-877-4-HSI-TIP) it's important that you report this. 00:06:34.599 --> 00:06:38.199 Report it to law enforcement and 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.639 and make sure that that information is 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.319 shared because it's about preventing 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.000 further victimization of 00:06:45.002 --> 00:06:46.479 yourself. 00:06:46.501 --> 00:06:48.870 (Music and DHS Seal on screen) 00:06:49.001 --> 00:06:52.000 (Text on screen: Fighting Global Threats, Protecting American Lives)